They shout "Alibaba"? He might as well be calling them "towelheads" or some shit.
My point stood because people jumped to conclusions before there was evidence.

No, the evidence was already out there, you just decided it was a good idea to call people racists with your limited knowledge. And as it turned out, everyone was right but you...

Europe will continue to burn.

It's too late to stop the tide of terrorism.

They had their chances back in the nineties to change the tide, they choose not too.

Don't bet on it, just yet. Hungary is fighting against all odds, against the EU drunkards... I mean, bureaucrats. They are not alone, either. Elections in 2017 are to come; France and Germany have some sensible parties on the rise constantly, lately and in no small part, "thanks" to recent terrorist activity and indiscriminate invasion... I mean, immigration. Italy is almost lost to us, though; 5 stars have internal disputes and changed euro-team, recently.

It's never too late. When everybody this side is cornered, they are so going to drop that "bigot" or "racist" crap and defend their homes, as democracy's core foundation commands: "Nation must be secured and safe from outside threats, citizens have the right to repel invaders by force, if they have to".

who wants an ass cake? (^_^)

Oh you mean those parties to make discrimination more relevant? Segregation? Ethnopluralism? Taking into account that people don't fitting in some profiles (White, Christian etc.) should leave the country or have to suffer under limitations? And that's just the beginning. Those parties?

Nationalism is the irrelevant believe that the own dirt is more relevant than others! You call up violence within your words and that is no argument. In fact there are no invaders. There are humans wanting a safe home! Stop talking about them like there are no individuals.

Like you jump to the conclusion of 'racism' or 'bigotry' if someone doesn't share your world view?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ePVxRLDM0
^ An explanation for why 'not especially religious' Muslims will sometimes go on a killing spree shouting "Allahu Akbar!". It's why Islam is 'different'. Most other religions do not offer salvation in the form of killing and dying in the name of their God.

Nah, it's not the religion that's the problem though... it's bigots like me.


I like your optimism, but just look at how the average westerner responds to threads like this. Who is getting the majority of downvotes? It's not the ones worried about the refugees and/or Islam.


Why is it OK for every country on this planet to remain 'ethnic' except for white countries? Any of you fighting to get whites more accepted in Islamic countries?


There are elements of Nationalism I don't like but again, I don't see the problem of being able to keep a nation's culture. These people are NOT assimilating! Also, he isn't calling for violence. Kicking these refugees out is the right of these countries. Especially when they've been deplorable violent , raping guests.

Your argumentation is one-sided: I have not said that this is only relevant for some countries. Take a look back within this thread: A reformation is needed, not coming up from countries or politicians, coming up from the people.

And what about generalization? Those "refugees" is a complete group, but there are individuals within. And to be honest: The wording have the right to repel invaders by force, if they have to is such generalized argumentation so everything can be done with it. As I've said earlier: It seems some here have no imagination or don't want to see what verbal branding does. You want to look at? Here! And only because other countries are doing this, we should have no further intention repeating it. The vicious circle must be stopped and instead of talking about prejudices there should be a talk about solutions including ALL.

Don't worry. Trolls and multiple accounts, fake numbers, here if you will (g0g), isn't even an issue, really. Youtube and other media, are buzzing and you see both heart-warming comments and self made analysis, everywhere! As i said before, even americans like/support Putin and Russian point of view and can actually believe THEM, over their own conspiring, directed and shadily-funded media.

I am optimistic, because THEY HAVEN'T put internet and traffic under strict watch and surveillance, as they have been planning for quite some time, now; internet is still free and without ambiguous, oppressive/intrusive laws enforced on it, at least just yet. Freedom of speech works wonders. It is thanks to "infowars" (not the channel) going on online, that unpredictable events took place (ex. Trump, Brexit), instead of the predetermined and pre-programmed ones. It is why most estimations failed.

Old people or uncouth-ed millennials, watch TV and fall prey to all manner of cheap propaganda. Young people, nowadays, go online and double-check the info with multiple sources, instead. They can even learn of media manipulation cases, like in my place, where the police was put near hot spots to arrest anybody trying to broadcast from there, take pictures and write articles on refugees abandoned, buried alive under the snow (from the charitable leftists), with minister's command to boot, or to with-hold info concerning certain crimes both among those beasts, or against the locals and their property.

Everybody can see who the REAL nazis and fascists are, whom exactly like nazis of old, are being PAID to bury refugees alive themselves, while at the same time jeopardizing the safety and security of the locals, with leftist signature. Those pretenders and criminals never cared for the refugees, to begin with, other than extorting extra millions in euro currency, for free. Or the people who elected them and what becomes out of them, down the road.

I am optimistic, because The World Is Changing! But not towards the direction that the NWO (and the NGOs) wants it to, or struggles desperately hard, to engineer it towards! Also, there is the "Anti-NWO" movement on the rise and more and more people have their leftist hallucinations dispelled, slowly and steadily. Even official estimations say, that Kalergi union... Sorry, European Union, is soon to end. All tyrannies are short-lived, anyway.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UKB8bqjiC7Q/UZESstEzZ0I/AAAAAAAAKvE/GAP33jcfJeo/s1600/caution.jpg

(We are at number 5, apparently; Elite controlled DEPOPULATION)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jlGMv3mKDCo/ULYsVA03k6I/AAAAAAAAEGU/g9nfsmopLJc/s1600/Jesuitface.PNG

To be continued, soon tm (!)

I agree but it's not happening! Our media and politicians paint those with legitimate worries about the refugees as racists and/or bigots! Actual Muslims who want change are denounced as pariahs! All we can do as citizens is vote the leaders out that aren't protecting their citizens.

I AGREE with you! The problem is western nations are not properly vetting these refugees! They're being flooded with violent rapists! OF COURSE not all of them are, but it's a huge problem that westerners are paying their lives for!

That video is ridiculous. If it were more accurate what would be happening is the 'grey people' would be forming roaving bands of rape gangs, at which point the 'yellow guys' would become inflamed and angry. Refugees aren't the victims, they're the victimizers. It would be nice to live in a world where the actual problem is refugees receiving salty looks and some denial of service here and there. Instead it's THEIR actions (HORRIBLE ACTIONS) that are inflaming the public.

Most of the negative rhetoric is coming from the left including fake stories of racist crimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=591AH6Mm28I

Most of us just want to get along. It's human nature. The media seems to want a damned race war.

As I've said: Single-sided and again ... just more verbal branding. But it is interesting: You take the general argumentation about discrimination, reflect this onto "refugees" and make it negative. Of course: What you are doing is not correct, but you try again and again more demagogy. The video ends with a peaceful solution, based on everyone. ;-)

And just to mention: You besides others always rise up more this "race wars" throughout your single-sided argumentation. This is everything the video is about, nothing more. But a mirror is not helpful here, because you are ignoring it alltime!

Because the refugee situation IS negative! It doesn't have to be, but it is. I want to go that extra step and find out WHY the situation is the way it is... and it always seems to relate back to culture and religion and the conflict between western ideals and the Islamic religion/culture.

They need to assimilate to US... not the other way around. That isn't happening and if they refuse they need to go back. That isn't racist, it's not bigotry, it's how the world works.

That video in no way accurately represents the refugee situation. If anything the 'yellow' guys would more accurately represent the refugees and the 'grey' guys would represent the westerners who take them in.

Oh of course: Turning around argumentation as always. ;-)
Enough demonstration for today, kids. You are not willing to notice what your verbal branding here does. You call out violence against people or better to say: The group you name "refugees" and the interesting fact here is ... did you even recognize that there is nobody here from this group? The only thing you want to spread is attention for hatred and prejudices. And you have chosen the GOG-forum just because of what? GOG does nothing against this? Perhaps this is the reason so you can go on. There were enough participants telling you that the argumentation is single-sided. But you keep going on and there is another fact: Your location is the US. How many refugees were taken over from the US? Therefore the Wikipedia-link with numbers. This thread is not about any solution, it's just about demagogy for Ethnopluralism. Invasion is a word of violence as assimilation is also! Calling people "monsters" is also the same. The thing is: It's kind of a game for you, isn't it? The arguments could be the best and you come up with another crude source, like videos from YouTube or something else. Just to have more evidence for your view! As I've said: When searching for violence done by "refugees" you'll find that instantly. The good one: There are more participants not accepting those single-sided argumentation. So you'll have to keep playing this "game", but in fact: This is not a "game" because verbal branding just leads to real discrimination and hatred. That's all for now from me! Have better things to do and talking in circles is nothing helpful.

Because it's the actual case. Refugees are the ones attacking their hosts.

What exactly is it doing eh? People coming on to GOG, listening to us talk and then going out and committing hate crimes? Please. All 'we're' doing is raising awareness about the situation.

I hate this argument so much because it's ignorant beyond all belief. If the facts show a certain group is doing something en masse it is not hatred to point it out and try and do something about it.

Your only solution involves 'reformations' started by these people. That will take decades... assuming it has ANY chance of happening at all. This situation is HERE AND NOW.

Because I happened to stop by the General Forums and noticed a discussion on terrorism and felt like weighing in, much like everyone else I assume.

If the argument is one sided it's because, hopefully, most people who can actually talk about the subject are in agreement that there is a problem. Obviously we have different ideas about what the solution is.

Point?

I've offered my own opinion on a solution and I think, based on how westerners have been voting, people are starting to wake up.

You've mentioned this before and I'll say it again, refugees forming rape bands and pulling boys into locked rooms due to 'sexual emergencies' are monsters. If we can't agree on this basic idea of what constitutes a 'monster' we live in different worlds.

No, it is something I take very seriously and worry about. I want people to be safe from this ridiculousness.

As for me not accepting the arguments to the contrary... THEY AREN'T GOOD ARGUMENTS! I could say the exact same about you not accepting MY viewpoint no matter where the information comes from!

BECAUSE IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM!! You realize that not every time negative information is out there that it is coming from someone with an agenda? If anything we've been seeing the media and political agendas at play when it is downplayed that refugees were involved in some form of violence and instead citizens are blamed!

You worry so much about "discrimination" and "hatred" that you don't seem to care for the true victims.

Reminds of that stupid German woman who was raped and then apologized to her rapist for any ill feelings people might get towards the refugees.

I'm disappointed. I thought we were making progress in how this is discussed but it is back to the usual 'yer just a racist hater!'.

If you read shittily translated crap on hateful propaganda sites managed by assholes, that's what happens: You look like a complete fool because you don't know crap about shit.

No, the German woman of Turkish descent didn't apologize to or even address that facebook post to her rapist.

She apologized to male refugees for the self-serving universal condemnation you're pulling off 24/7.

She apologized on your behalf.