You're late to the party. ZFR isn't in the brig anymore since about 40 posts.

Also, I followed bler's accusation that he leveled at Joe and went over all of Joe's post back to D1. Joe RVS voted ZFR ... and let that RVS vote sit on ZFR for all of the Day. He only changed votes after the deadline! And since then he didn't vote even once! Only two brig votes.

So, Joe, care to explain why you are so adverse to voting? Even though you yourself stated that voting is good for town?

Until you do, I think it's justified to

vote JoeSapphire

especially since Joe is anyhow in my 'either him or yogs are scum' bracket, which is, admittedly, based only on numbers and some speculation.

I knew trent did, which is why I didn't mention him. I missed the part where you did it too.

It was before the deadline when I wrote that vote!! argh!

Day one I was on a viable wagon that I had faith in, why would I remove my vote? Day two Cristi was getting lynched. I could have added my vote but the wagon was going faster than I wanted it to anyway. I could have hammered but Trent had the prerogative.

I will vote today. Probably for Bler or Trent. I'd like to hear some Bler-logic.


what's that about?

I'm struggling to follow you here. Why would a doctor's claim be counter-claim for a roleblocker?

I am massively interested.
Why are you so certain you'll survive the night?

okay. I get it, a roleblocker is a protective role and a doctor is a protective role.

Of course if you have both then it makes the results harder to read ("Was the kill prevented because the block blocked cylon or because the doc docked crew?")

Out of interest, how many others think that, if there is a doctor, the doctor should claim in order to give goglactica more relevant information on the SirPrimalform debate?

NO! Outing the Doctor, who is way more powerful, just because we have a Roleblocker claim? That would be tremendously bad play for town. Just like it would have been to out the real cop to protect the backup! I don't want our PRs to paint big target signs on themselves if it can be avoided. Rather than out the Doctor it would be better to lynch SP. I don't say that it would be necessarily good to lynch SP, just losing a Roleblocker is preferable to losing the Doctor, if there is one.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Either you're lying (I'm not sure what benefit that would have for scum!trent or town!trent), you're a Strongbadman and didn't even notice the block or you just softclaimed VT.

None of those scenarios make me hesitate to
brig trentonlf

I wonder if the brig works on Strongbadmans? Perhaps tomorrow there'll be a trent shaped hole in the door.

Who the fuck's SP? I'm SPF.

Out of game: Oh man, I just caught this bit. Sorry to hear that, I'll do my best to keep you occupied here.

Very sorry to hear this, trent. If you need to talk, my inbox is open.

Ele, I have a question for you. if you had a Day-vig to your head, and the only way out of it was to name one or two players you were pretty certain were town, who would those players be?

What if you had to name one or two players as pretty certain scum?

Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at. I know he's distracted by RL but he made a similar move on D2 calling for flub to share results and was called out on it, so...he starts D3 by casually mentioning it?

Bizarre.

To be fair, no one ever likes my play.


I've laid out a lot of logic, it just tends to get lost in the noise, admittedly. What specifically would you like me to logically address.


Well, at the time I figured I would turn off the computer, maybe read a book, brush my teeth and floss, and short of a massive coronary, I would probably fall asleep and wake up in the morning.

And lo and behold, miracle of miracles, I survived the night of 7/23.

Without jinxing myself, I hope to also survive the night of 7/24 as well but we'll have to wait and see.

I've wondered that too. Esp. when you consider that brigged toasters can't participate in night chat and where that takes you with coordinating the NK.

My line of thought is that there is no doctor, and no strongbad for that reason. Maybe.

Town RB makes sense in that crazy setup logic, because you can't play defense, but instead have to guess where the attack is coming.

But that assumes logic and the mod could just as easily say Strongbad powerful enough to overcome double-shift work assignment or drinking, but not powerful enough escape from brig.

1. OK, I laughed at that. Please don't do that. I'm at work and my colleagues always want to know what I'm laughing about when I do.

2. flavour-wise that would actually fit. A Cylon might be immune to booze, asexual and might not need sleep so that he can pull off a double shift and a night action.

But didn't you say you might explain what you was doing yesterday if you survive the night? So, what was it you were doing yesterday? ... Honestly I didn't even understand what it was you wanted to explain, but please do!


Oh and also:
*poke poke* is it dead? Damnation, please rejoin us! Just a friendly warning since this is our first game together: lynch all lurkers is a thing around here. Especially I am a proponent of that, if I lack any solid reads. And right now I am doubting my reading skills...

So, please contribute and state who your scum-reads are and why!

Hooray! Someone cares about me!

It's pretty straightforward - considering I pretty much always roll cop historically yogs might believe I was cop again and come gunning for him, esp. after his EOD2 entrance.

So it was a theatrical buildup and bluff attempt. The hangup was that I couldn't really go all in on the bluff, since that would either require full claim if I were cop, or luring out the real claim if I weren't. And then the reality that it was a long shot anyway, esp. considering he's yogs and bluffing has never been my strong suit.

That said, I tend to look at what's happening off of wagons as much as on them, esp. if this is a world where all the main wagons have been town so far. You and HSloth both reached L-4, as I recall. SirP got to L-1 but claimed, ZFR to L-2 but claimed.

There are only 4 of us left not on cristi, and I know it's not me. I'm pretty sure it's not you though maybe I'm reading the odds wrong there. ZFR blows my mind but ...somehow town. Which leaves yogs. And thus why the gambit on bluffing yogs even though it was a long shot.

Or else, alternatively, find 3 mafia on the wagon or come back to the messier worlds of scum!you or scum!zfr. And just looking at 3-team combos on the wagon I don't see any that work without trent.

Ele I don't see - Lift is meh. So while the display was bluff, logically that's why I'm kidna at the point of lynching one or the other. At the moment trent seems more actively wolfy of the two, however, and also more likely to bend under pressure.

Anyway, gotta shower and get to work, so that's the hastily penned probably should be edited version.

But sure, in retrospect I probably should have flipped that and done the gambit on trent or lift instead, just at the start fo the day trent hadn't quite come into focus yet. /shrug

Yes, this can be a wolf.