Greetings fellow players!

Today was girlfriend day, which basically means I do nothing but entertain my girlfriend the entire day, even though most of the time that results in just dicking around. But hey! We enjoy each other as well as each other's presence, so there's that. It works! Is marriage like that too? Just curious. Nowhere near that point, if anyone is wondering.

Anyway. I am currently catching up. At the beginning of page 8 on a 20 post page format. Not much so far, but the heat seems to be on drealmer for now.

Is it normal for there to be a scum chat during twilight?

You said: gamma are you ever going to be scum in a game with me again? (we've been in like 10 games together and he's been scum once?
I pointed out exactly what and why I found issue with. Its called a possible slip. You are tearing my apart for what we should be doing. Pointing out things that we find off and question it to able pressure. You sure get overly defensive. You seem to like to think anyone who question you gets scum points. Your first sentence reads to me that you know he is not scum by asking again as if he is not this game. And I love how Trent also had issues with your phrasing it that way but you see his reasoning but i get scum points for the same questioning.

ad-nauseum - to a sickening excessive degree

No need to be a dick about how I post or choose to explain myself.
If you are going to be insulting people its going to make people think twice about posting so they dont get insulted and thats could keep good points and players from contributing. That alone is anti-town.

And if you didnt notice cristi said that my statement raised her eyebrows so I was explaining my reasoning in more detail. Also as far as I gathered from RW posting the vote count today and checking the OP the person who has the most votes will be lynched as compared to needing to get to the certain amount of votes. So I take that as someone with three votes and someone with two votes the one with 3 will be lynched. So if the day ends suddenly just a few votes can get someone lynched and we do not know when it will end and even if we will get notice of it coming soon.

More or less. While I did mention that behaviors can be observed, the main point is to utilize only what you can gather empirically and leave the feelings to the side. For me, even after quite some time off, it is rather obvious some players have very strong feelings regarding each other. Maybe I don't see it right, but it is what I'm seeing. And it is exactly this bias that often created unnecessary conflict even in my old days.

Not entirely, but a good chunk of it that mostly relates to personal views could be left out for the sake of analysis. Now, I'm no expert at analyzing stuff, unless we are talking about economics and geopolitics, but the "experts" that put most feeling into their analysis are the ones that are the most often wrong.

Take it easy and ask more questions without having the lens of a previous game on. Yes, you can draw comparisons, but your main tool is to catch lies, contradictions, reactions, and abnormalities and then figure out where to go from there.

Are you?

Debatable. We both come from Eastern Europe. ;)

Did you Kenyan guests have a good time? I dated a Kenyan girl once. She was Americanized, but it was pretty interesting.

No love for me? :(

It seems I am perpetually stuck as the black sheep of the whole white world of white sheep. :c

Interesting.

Hmmmmmm.

I can now see where the confusion is coming from. At first, I was in the boat that thought drealmer's question was pretty straightforward, but it is indeed phrased in an erroneous manner that leaves a lot to the interpretation of the individual.

Just to make sure, were gamma and drealmer indeed never scum together?

Interesting catch. So, question to drealmer: which of the two is it? Do you want to be scum with gamma again? Or were you never scum with him? ... And doesn't that contradiction make one of the two sentences a lie?

Nope. I'm not trying to paint you as scum. I'm just 'painting' you as bad player who habitually barks up the wrong tree - which you do again. And who sees questioning of himself as scummy - which you do again. You miss the point that questioning you and calling you out on odd posts is part of the game, just as for any other player. But no, you hand out scum points to anyone who dares to find you suspicious.

But a cover for what? What evil goal could anyone pursue with asking people to participate more than in the last game?

Uuuhhh ... ok. Looks like I'm still not paranoid enough for that game. That's a very convoluted way of thinking. ... So let me get that straight. You think I made some innocent statement in the hope that someone wouldn't find it innocent and that I then can throw shade around? No.
I really don't get it. I mean, I can see that my voting and unvoting drealmer looks suspicious. And I get that some other things about my way of playing may look suspicious. But why you selected this specific post out of everything is beyond me. But probably we won't ever agree on that, so I'll drop it. You find it scummy, I don't. Fine.

What other points were there? Oh yes, trent's 'discovery'. Yes, I saw that when he posted it first, but I didn't vote drealmer immediately, because my vote was still on yogs and still served it's purpose there. I wanted to wait for yogs reaction first. After that was resolved, I moved my vote to drealmer. Not so hard to understand, is it?

And about my stance on drealmer now: yes, I do see him as suspect. But his reaction matching so well what I have seen from town drealmer in the past, made me doubt my read enough, that I took my vote off him for the moment, especially since flubb jumped on. We still have time and there is no need to rush drealmer to a lynch. For now I want to wait for him to finish catching up. His last post went only up to replying to post 133 - and there are quite some things to come after that, where I'm interested in observing his reaction to. After that, we'll see. Yes, I may put my vote back on him.

But for now I'll use it to fight my pet peeve: lurking.


vote Bookwyrm

Please move your b...ook back to the game, Booksie! Also, is your vote on flubb, that you cast in post 33, still valid? If so, why?

Are we getting this anytime soon?


Not sure how and if that will work on D1, but if see it as the better approach that's fine. So, after seeing everything so far have you gotten some non-meta related reads/observations that you find useful? You already touched briefly on drealmer but do you have any actual reads of him and of his exchange with Lift? And about Lift?


I think so. They like the city very much and got to see the weekend nightlife, so lots of fun :)

I now see why cristi has disappeared, she said she had a family weeding this weekend and would be mostly gone till Sunday. Bookwyrm being gone this long is unusual though so I hope everything is ok with him. I also hope gamma shows up today and posts, although I'm not sure it will be much if he does unfortunately.

@dedo, You keep asking everyone's opinion on Lift, what is your opinion?

While quite true, it's exactly what scum-Lifthrasil exploited in game #46. So, as I said, I'm not ready to classify it as v/v, chalking it up to them clashing due to their usual tunnelling on each other.


I take this to mean that you see enough differences from game #46 to lean more towards v/v? If so, can you go into some detail? Having played in that game, I may be falling victim of confirmation bias.


I will return to this after I comment on a few related things, will add into making my take clearer.



Are you trying to get Lifthrasil to re-vote you? E̶s̶p̶e̶c̶i̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶s̶i̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶h̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶v̶o̶t̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶t̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶m̶e̶n̶t̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶d̶o̶ ̶i̶t̶?̶

*sees that Lifthrasil voted Bookwyrm627 in the meantime*



[emphasis added]

And how would/do you know that any counter-claim is the true one? More so on D1?



*looks at "12 hours ago" timestamp of docbear1975's post*

Those thoughts must be pretty elusive...


ISO stands for isolating a player's posts. It's, as I told you in the sign-up thread, what you use AF for - take a look at the attached screenshot, for an example.

I apologize for my extended absence. In training classes Thursday and Friday (so I didn't have my usual connection), then out in the sun AND rain yesterday helping install a shelter for an air compressor at an airstrip. Looks like several pages have gone up in the meantime, so apparently I need to be away more often.

Blah blah blah, someone is scum, that person is town, kill the lurkers...wait...

Time for Yog's favorite phrase! I'll post more later today.

I take as normal whatever the mod decides on the matter. And RWarehall made a very clear statement in the sign-up thread [emphasis added]: I'm pretty sure that scum wouldn't pass the opportunity for some head-start strategising and co-ordinating.


That's not how majority lynch works. A majority lynch occurs when 50%+1 of votes have been cast on a player, and when majority has been reached that player will be lynched, regardless of how far into a Day we are, and even if someone unvotes after. A majority may end a Day early, but the Day will continue till deadline otherwise. If no majority has been reached by deadline, then the Day ends in No-Lynch.

For Today, it means that a lynch requires 8 votes, hence majority has not been reached yet in any of the Vote Counts done so far.

But to be absolutely certain and clear:

@mod - is my understanding of majority lynch correct/accurate?


Hey, why are you calling me a dick? I never said any of that!

Just pulling your leg, but look at that quote - something that drealmer7 said to you, with a bit of something that bler144 had said to yogsloth, attributed to me; lol.

On majority lynch: You have it correct, possibly excepting the part about "Today" as I'm leaving it intentionally vague whether powers exist (or not) which alter the vote balance. But if all players get a single vote today worth one vote, then it will take 8 votes to lynch.

Current votes:
flubbucket - Bookwyrm627
HijacK - cristigale
drealmer7 - trentonlf; flubbucket
Lifthrasil - drealmer7
Bookwyrm627 - Lifthrasil

Not voting: GammaEmerald; HypersomniacLive; dedoporno; bler144; yogsloth; HijacK; docbear1975; Sage103082

Majority has not been reached.

I don't like his exchange with drealmer. Especially how easy he backed off. And how easy he jumped on the next person. And how he backed off of Yog earlier. In general I'm getting a vibe from I don't really like. His pushes seem a bit soft, shallow almost as if they're just there for show. I may be mistaken, of course, and it may be genuine scum-hunting but I can't help the weird feeling.


On different note something important happened to which I don't know how to react to at this point without risking shooting us in the foot...

Don't shoot us in the foot.

Exactly! So... was this a vote on yourself? ;-)

Nice that you're back. Now I hope that we can read some contribution from you soon. Until then I'll leave my vote where it is.