@Lift - point me to this if you already addressed it (or I haven't seen it yet)

Why are you giving Hyper such flack for his EOD (beyond the spat) and not Joe?

CHEERS FOR THAT FLUBBUCKET





Because, unlike me, you're too dumb to work out what all the fun letter puzzles mean, I've copied out my notes for you.

CFD - Chair Flexibilty Day - Referring to everybody suddenly switching their votes at the same time, just like how in a classroom on chair flexibilty day, everybody changes to a different seat.

EOD - Early Onset Dementia - I haven't worked out what it's got to do with a mafia game yet, but I'll get there.

HSL - High Scum Leaning - Someone who is HSL appears very 'scummy' to many other players.

NAI - Not Altogether Inappropriate - A useful phrase that comes up often in the game.

MU - Marakesh University - Hosts of the BBGC (Biannual Battlestar Galactica Convention)

ZFR - Zephyr Firzee Rosephi - The creator of Forum Mafia.

T/T - Tit over Tat - Similar to 'tit for tat', meaning 'to give as good as you get', but here what you gave was only a fragment og what you got.

LAMIST - Look About Myself In Suspenseful Trepidation - For the frequent moments in a mafia game where you wonder if everybody else is all in one big mafia and the entire set up is a joke at your expense.

NK - New Knees - a phrase to indicate that someone's argument has explained away a long-held doubt - the same way replacement joints can cure long-held arthritis.

RVS - Regular Visiting Station - otherwise known as scumchat, mafia's private chatroom, le boudoir, tin can on a string, etc. etc.

SPF - Stating Preferred Foe - When a mafioso accidentally writes the nightkill in the forum instead of the private message. Always a dead giveaway.

W/W - Whether or Weather - useful for when you're not sure which of the homophones if the one you're using.

CFD - Can't F---ing Deny - As in 'Flubbucket CFD that his answers to Joe's questions were unhelpful bollocks'

With the way things are going so far today, no, I'm not overly concerned. So far, I've liked the discussion as far as moving forward. I'm concerned about the possibility of another last minute wagon day. But I hope we learned our lesson. So here's what I'm thinking, Once I am caught up and some exchanges, if I am still a likely lynch candidate, perhaps it's best I claim with 24-48 hours to spare. I've waffled on this, so I'd like some input. If enough players (not in my scum pile) thinks it is best, I'll claim.

Still catching up...

I'm a doofus. Is that so hard to understand??

A doofus in wolf's clothing. ;-p

That's fair, it probably was. Part of the problem, is when I force myself to post when I'm too tired, I don't feel like all the clogs are syncing and I don't trust my judgement. That happened a few days at the beginning of last week. That's all on me. Live and learn. I've learned I enjoy it much more when there's some opportunity to interact. The rest can ultimately start to feel like it's slogging.


My thought on a sleeper - they wouldn't know they were Cylon, but the other Cylon's would...isn't that what a sleeper is? I don't know how that plays out in a game. It was just my thought from the miniseries.

But sense you mentioned it, if I were scum or whatever version of sleeper you describe, I certainly would have kept it to myself. I know it's WIFOM, but I'm not going to put it out there and alert everyone. I think it's strange for town!Lift to think that was what I was doing.

I gotta to walk the dog and get back to work for a while, will try to check back in about 2 hours. I'm still about 35 posts back.

What I have noticed most is that Lift is to trying too hard to paint me as scum:

Vote Lifthrasil

Maybe you missed what I said to bler so I will post it again:

"I also think y'all are getting bent out of shape on this issue over semantics. When say I believe someone is town, I believe they are town. Not leaning town, not probably town, but town. By the end of the day yesterday I had two people I felt were town, Vitek and ZFR. I felt SirPrimalform was probably town, but I was not going to chance lynching a possible power role for us. I had several other people leaning town, some leaning scum, while others I had as in the middle. So when it came down to it if there had been a viable wagon on someone else other than Vitek, ZFR, or SirPrimalform I would have probably joined it. My preferred lynch yesterday was cristigale and it still is today.

Now if people prefer to lynch someone even if they think they are town then kudos to them, but I will not do it."

I even underlined the pertinent portion for you. I don't vote anyone I believe is town, but if it comes down to it and the day was going to end in a no lynch and a viable wagon was someone I had as leaning/maybe/possibly town I would vote them to secure a lynch as I know I have been wrong many times in the past on my town/scum reads and everyone else could just be seeing something that I am not.



The answer to that one is no, I have no issue tossing a buddy under the bus if I'm scum. As I have said before I would gladly push them out the door and run them over with the bus just to make sure they are nice and lynched.


If I'm wrong and you are town, don't claim until you are at L-1. If you are town scum will not lynch you at L-1 (unless they are desperate).

Tell me this though, you got upset that ZFR was not the lynch yesterday because he claimed vanilla town yet you have not mentioned him at all today. Why?

The problem with your example would seem to be the question of what does town!HSL's flip actually tell you about cristi/ZFR. So for that ~75% probability your own answer appears to be "nothing." Certainly that could change depending on how D2 proceeds, but...

And out of curiosity, toss aside your "OMG I solved it D1 - it's cristi+HSL+ZFR!!!!1!" long shot.I mean, kudos if you're right, but I did the math and it's like 435% chance you're probably not. So toss that aside - you really think that scum!ZFR gets up to 5(?) votes around the mid-point of the day, and HSL and cristi just laze around casually watching it go down only to, like, panic at the final gun?

Possible, sure. Plausible...eh.


Are...you pulling a JMich here? It seems like you're possibly making it personal to try to wind him up. This may seem hypocritical from the person criticizing ZFR's play in a ...perhaps overly zealous manner...but I don't think I've accused him of being a terrible person. Have I? Maybe I have.

Anyway, HSL. Yes, he asks a lot of questions. That's his thing, and he spots a lot of things other people miss - some of which are certainly irrelevant, but most of what most of us say is ultimately that way.

Just answer the ones you want, and do what you like with the others. For $100, I can teach you my secret of how to just not answer him when you don't feel like it's productive. I'd say it's not that hard to do, but I'll need that $100 first.

It was a long weekend. And an even longer Monday. :(

I've been in 2 games here where rez was a thing. It's just not a particularly useful ability for scum to have.

Town Day: lynch scum!
Scum night: raise scum!
Town Day: lynch same scum again!

Also, not likely.

/shrug


I don't always extrapolate, but when I do it's based on N=1

I looked, but that didn't appear to be a meme for some strange reason.









( I didn't really look)


What specifically did you think he handled well? Just, like, typing the words "I am Kara Starbuck Roleblocker of Towns!"



My posts are too long.

I was upset because lynching a claimed vanilla was the right thing to do. ZFR was in my my POE and even if he is telling the truth, the information we receive from the flip is worth more than losing a vanilla town role. So far, I've more than not liked what I've seen in ZFR today. And I happen to agree with bler, that if we are going to lynch him, today is the day (apart from some new information). I'd prefer to lynch someone I find more likely to be scum.

The claim, itself, was just that. It's more a sense that he seemed calm (maybe he does that as scum). He stayed involved, no sense of being frozen or over-reacting.

Sorry...RL troubles at home.

@Lift - sorry about the wallet. :(

Uhhh...why a time-based claim, exactly? I don't follow. If L-3 at T-48 you'll claim just because you have a wagon? If L-1 right now you wouldn't claim?

I know that's probably not what you're saying but...that's what it looks like you're saying.

While not regarding your specific proposal which I'm not following, as the person most off-cycle, honestly, 24 hours feels like not enough time to me since I might get to ask questions but by the time I see any responses the day would be over. /shrug

I don't follow you.


Frakkity smurf - you're right! It is WIFOM! Amazing.

Also "I think it's strange for ____!Lift to _____" is the Cliff Notes version of my experience of every GOG mafia game I have played in or observed. Even ones he wasn't in.

Side note: Could make a fun Mad Libs out of that.

Really? I could have sworn you were on record as staunchly anti-bussing at least once. The only bus I remember was Leonard in the all-scum game, and you hammered that primarily just to smurf with his flip.

Which, you know, didn't work out so well for you.

You wouldn't happen to recall a place where that claim of buss-iness could be verified?

Funny, I view his play as mostly frenetic with the occasional caesura. But quite humorous.

I mean, I guess I don't really see the calmness than you do other than these two posts (order reversed):


That exchange with JoeS looks strange if I squint at it juuuust the right way:
509: Ele votes to L-1
510: SPF curses flub's lineage instead of claiming
514: Joe - should we like hold off until he claims?
517: SPF - claims town roleblocker
520: Joe - well I believe that!

I jest, but it brought to mind Joe's earlier D1 post:

I guess "appealing thought" won out in the battle of "think it's unlikely" vs. the Mulderian ethos. Would you concur, Joe?

Also, for a Sirp whose dying wish was to avenge him by unleashing the wrath of all that is holy on flubbucket, SPF is pretty chill about him D2. "Yes, yes, I said he was super scummy. Like suuuper scummy. Definitely worth lynching. But since I didn't die maybe we could just, like, brig him gently henceforth?"

Presumably desiring to keep flub around for his insights and carefully researched treatises that help make everything about the game more clear and comprehensible. I get it. Once you've claimed Town Roleblocker at L-1, the 4th person to get back off the wagon definitely looks more towny.



It's a mad, mad world where Ele is now my far and away top townread.

Of the two main options, I don't particularly like either, but I'll vote the one that probably needs resolving anyway. Plus I need more time to weave that licorice hat.
vote cristi

Note to self - write down the post number if you leave off again.

I think I'm caught up. I am slightly paranoid that Hyper might be White Knighting me. But that's my tinfoil, I believe he is town.

My current reads are:

Town (alphabetical)
bler
Hyper
Joe
trent

SPF (self-resolving)

POE (in order of lynch preference, least to most)
Damnation
Ele - mostly a null read here
Bookwyrm/Adalia
ZFR (I see the benefit of clearing this slot)

Scum
Lift
Flubb

Adalia is the one I find most difficult to place, I could see him in any spot in the POE list.

The time doesn't matter, it's just a gauge to try to prevent what happened yesterday. I think bler's vote put me at L-2. If another person votes or expresses their intention to vote. I will claim tomorrow (Tuesday).

Please note, I am traveling tomorrow and will not have access until late in the evening EST.

Open question to anyone with a town read on Joe.
Why?

I happen to have him down as slightly town, but I can't help but feel he's just flub that talks more. Most of his posts I remember are just jokes (and I'm fairly sure the fact I find his posts humorous is part of the reason I'm reading him town), he sat on ZFR all of day 1 and then magically decided ZFR is definitely town today.
I get the feeling he's talking a lot to avoid actually saying anything... and pocketing us all as he does so.