So it's real... well after seeing it, i still think Skyblivion team did a better job. Besides Skyblivion will probably be less of a resource hog, and they at least fixed Leyawiin so it matches the concept art and makes sense (doubt Remastered did that). Not to mention that Skyblivion will be free for us who own Skyrim and Oblivion, and this Bugthesda nutjobs want 55, 65€... for this!?

If this was Arena, Daggerfall (oh I would SOO upgrade my PC and gladly pay even more if this was Daggerfall!) or even Morrowind i'd make more sense.

And lastly... I WANT Elder Scrolls VI, NOT THIS Remaster!

Perhaps I'm being cynical, but I saw it more as lazy corner-cutting, because they were stretched on resources and didn't want to have to bother writing the amount of additional dialogue that would have been needed to have actually interesting out-of-town NPCs.


It's kind of ridiculous how quickly they managed to pump out this remaster, compared to the aeons it's taking them to develop ES6.

They are making it. This was mostly done by a game studio called Virtuos. Bethesda thmselves are working on Elder Scrolls 6
It is becuase they did not make it, Virtous did.

alos - a waste amount of difference between remastering and existing game, and making a new game.

I will try Skyblivion when it is done as well, but all i can tell you know is that on my rig I am getting better perfomance from this remake on Ultra settings, then what I get on Skyrim on Ultra settings. i have been impressed so far.

There is nothing to do besides the combat in Oblivion, so character focusing on combat skills isn't an argument. I watched a lot of videos from Oblivion fan called the Old Knight on Youtube, he explained Oblivion mechanics well, and problem isn't that of the leveling but of Oblivion not explaining how its damage calculations work and melee damage calculations being bugged.
Are you sure? Each Elder Scrolls game since Morrowind was worse than the last one, I am not sure anybody will like TES 6.

I was going to play the mod few years ago but if I remember correctly wasn't the audio in another language (not in english)? I may be mistaken with the Gothic mods but I think it was the audio that stopped me from playing it at at the time.

Indeed - the keys from 3rd party resellers seem to disappear. I doubt they will completely remove it though. They may just not discount it for a while. If the original Skyrim is still on Steam and you can buy it why would they do that to Oblivion, And they also seem to be in good terms with the Skyblivion team. I just read they sent to all the devs keys for the remaster. Why would they suddenly kill the game which you would need to play this mod. But I also understand why people don't trust them!

Except for the part where Oblivion is more fun than Morrowind and Skyrim more fun than Oblivion.

I'm sorry, but it's true. Just because the rules get simpler or you no longer have to rely on often bullshit vague directions on huge map doesn't mean the game is worse. Yeah, there is it's own kind of fun to be had in a tougher, more old-school game, exploration etc. but there is a reason (more than one, really) I never finished Morrowing, but did finish Oblivion and Skyrim.

Though I'll admit, the chief reason is that I just liked the settings for Oblivion and Skyrim way more. Seriously, Morrowing is just an ugly, tedious place to be in the long run. Ash, swamps, giants bugs, everything is brown and grey...

I don't want to make it sound like I hate Morrowind. Quite the contrary, it's still a hell of a game and I spent a lot of time with it. But in the end the later games just rank higher in terms of enjoyment beginning to end.

If Bethesda is really hellbent on making the Old Oblivion version disappear from purchase - why not just bundle Old Oblivion GOTY Deluxe to everybody that purchases the NEW Remaster for Steam?

Problem solved; old one doesn't entirely disappear, even if it's bundled w/ the expensive New Remaster.

Truth is subjective, I could just as easily say that truth is that the only reason you would want to play Skyrim is Ordinator, because game is boring AF without that and 500+ other mods. And there is a paradox in that your "tougher" old school experience actually makes game meaningful because exploration requires some foresight and preparation; although it's a moot point since Morrowind isn't really a hard game, just like Skyrim. Morrowind bullshit direction sucks balls I admit, but lack of Levitation or acrobatics in Skyrim sucks much more, unless you think 2D games are better than 3D ones.

I mean you can like Oblivion and Skyrim as settings more than Morrowind, but Oblivion is among the blandest and most generic fantasy settings ever, and disliking game because of it's color palate of its first town is extremely superficial. You are not leaving the best impression here.

And now it's 45. XD

Thanks for pointing that out. I'll be buying GOTY Oblivion momentarily.

I've had it wishlisted forever since I actually have a physical disc of it (that I bought for 50 cents at a pawn shop) but I had decided to get GOTY at some point since it includes one DLC I've never been able to obtain anywhere else, and because installation would be a little simpler with GOG's install files than having to deal with several DVDs.

Since my system is nowhere NEAR powerful enough to run the remastered version and I don't know when I'll be able to replace it, I'll be playing the non-remaster version for some time to come.

Good to see Oblivion getting a remaster as it definitely was the most aesthetically pleasing of the bunch! I wish I had more to say here about my memories of it and such but it never really made an impression on me the same way Morrowind did. Regardless this game deserves to be reintroduced to a new generation and hopefully this version will breed a new appreciation for the hunt for Martin Septim and the machinations of the Daedra on Tamriel!

Historical Lowest Price on GOG was : 1,99€ .

I'm cautiously interested, but Oblivion's main draw was the insane quantity of mods available. Places, quests, items, game mechanic improvements (if you only install one mod, make it KCAS to fix the awful default levelling system) all sorts of stuff. And I don't expect that most of those mods will be converted to the remaster simply because the people who made them will have moved on.

I'll still pick the game up when it comes out, but I don't know if I'll enjoy it as much as the original. At least half of my Oblivion playtime was added by mods. More like 2/3, perhaps even 75%.

As for comparing Oblivion with other TES games, I'd still rank it as the best. Now, I've never actually played Morrowind or Skyrim. I've only seen Let's Plays of them.

Morrowind? Yes, it's perhaps a little mechanically deeper, but the world is much smaller with less detail and it's got some extremely annoying game mechanics (spell fizzling, weapon strikes flat out missing for no obvious reason). People ragged on Oblivion's repetitive voice acting, but it added real depth to the world. Depth that Morrowind lacks. And as others have mentioned, the world is quite bland and colourless.

Skyrim the game has a nicer engine - more detail, nicer effects, better performance. The game mechanics were changed and I'm ambivalent on whether that's good or not (you can no longer get 100% magic immunity). But Skyrim the place has the same flaw as Morrowind the place - it's an icy frozen wasteland. Grey, white, brown and tiny little bits of green here and there.

Fallout 3? Not a TES game, but it's also a dead colourless wasteland (though there's a very good reason for that).

Fallout New Vegas? It had more colour, but being a desert, it's a desolate inhospitable hellhole by default.

But Oblivion's world is a lush verdant paradise. Not so much up north, where it's cold and snowy - but that's fine. It's got actual biomes and real contrast between them. If it weren't for the demonic invasions, caves full of goblins, bandit gangs, monster attacks and all sorts of other fantasy trappings, it's a place where I'd actually like to be. Wide fertile plains, farms and crops, cool and clean rivers flowing through green hills and forests. It's a strange combination of the Elysian fields and Valhalla (because it's hard to go far without coming under attack).

More than once in Oblivion, I ended up walking around for its own sake. Not for quests or to find a new cave to clear out for XP, but because the world itself is beautiful. I'd never do that in Morrowind or Skyrim because there's so little to look at. It's escapism, pure and simple. To visit a better place, even if only for an hour. Where the air is clean and the grass is green, where the water flows and a cool wind blows. To rest your knees in the shade of the trees and just for an hour, to see the flowers.

i just saw the price... my world.. i have all these games already.. no... sorry.
things i could buy for the same price.
a month of food
10000000000000000 other games i have not played.
a cheap 3d printer

a night with some guys mom...

Too bad we at the mercy of Bethesda and whether or not they decide to release their games on GOG. People were begging for Skyrim for years before it finally made to GOG.

Besides issues with level scaling, I've always hated the way leveling system works, forcing the player to perform unintuitive tasks in order to maximize their attribute gains. From what is shown in the official overview review, you assign points right from from the start, which is an improvement in my book.

That said, Morrowind would be been my preferred Elder Scrolls game to be remade. I though the setting was more interesting than Oblivion, aside from Shivering Isles. Also Morrowind, is rough by modern standards, in both graphics and gameplay, and will benefit a lot more from updates.