iphgix: I am against mandating that a game company allow ANYTHING in a game that they develop or distribute. I think that the governments in the world get their noses into way too many things as is. So the people are right to complain if they want a developer/distributor/whoever to add content that they want. That said the vocal minority almost always seems to get what they want, you know.
Precisely, the government shouldn't be telling Nintendo whether or not to include depictions of homosexuality in their games. But, the people have a right to push Nintendo to do the right thing by including their orientation in a game that's about living ones life online.
IAmSinistar: Marginalising a struggle with language like "hissy fit" does no one any favours. If you feel you are under-represented, you can either fight for it as others are doing, or you can resign yourself to remaining invisible. You are of course free to do the latter, but mistaken if you think that puts you in a superior moral position.
jepsen1977: Keep in mind I'm talking about "hissy fit" in relations to media like games, movies and books - NOT real life. In RL I would be right there with you fighting for equal rights for LGBTs. But when it comes to fiction, art and creative freedom I don't like the demand to be included from gays or females. Again it's great if we can get more gay, disabled, female etc. protagonists in our games but I don't think you can demand it if you also want to maintain creative freedom for devs.
It's the demanding tone and the shame tactics I take objection too here, where if games don't have gay or female characters in them then it MUST be because of discrimination against minorities and not just because the devs chose not to include it due to time or monetary reasons or perhaps they just didn't know about it or forgot. So it's absolutely fine to ask for or make them aware of or remind them of LGBT inclusion in games but please stay away from the boycotts and the shame tactics because it's not always for malicious reasons that gay options are not in a game.
But, where do you draw the line? One of the things that keeps minorities down is a restriction on the depictions in the mass media. Surely the government shouldn't be making mandates, but the consumers are completely the right group to demand equal treatment.
Now, if this were a game where you were playing somebody else, I think that would be different..
Psyringe: When you program a game, and include marriage, then - by default - gay marriages are always in. They don't need to be specifically "included". If you just program a feature that allows characters to marry, then there is nothing which would prevent same-sex marriages.
Vestin: Thinking along these lines, one would also have to set up a concurrency check... which makes me wonder, mostly on a personal level - what's your take on polygamy? If you look up the data, it's not only shunned, it's outright ILLEGAL in most of the "Western World", yet on an ethical level it might be difficult to reasonably prove that a consensual union between more than two people is somehow deeply aberrant.
Then again - if I really wanted to raise eyebrows, I should probably mention the Mut'ah marriages instead. More novel, similarly eye-opening. ;P
Sorry, but I very distinctly remember that on our Intro to Social Anthropology we were first given a rich (if suspiciously specific) definition of marriage that, afterwards, got completely dismantled lecture by lecture, as we've learned of a bevy of different customs and cultures.
People say that, and it's BS. The reason why polygamy and polygyny are typically illegal is because it ensures that a portion of the population can't get married. The FLDS had to find reasons to excommunicate 2/3 of the males in order for there to be enough women for the men that remained to be married.
What's more, cultures that have polygamy don't always have rules that require the person marrying multiple people to be capable of supporting all of them.
Multiple marriage itself is something that has very real problems associated with it in the same way that marrying children off to adults has inherent problems.