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Aliasalpha: Bollocks
Though hardly unexpected.
IF they actually do compatibility work, I MIGHT be tempted to try Republic Commando but unlike if they were being offered on GOG, I'm not replacing physical copies of stuff I already own

That's the second compatibility comment I've heard in regards to RC. I've never had issues with the game on XP, does it have problems with Vista or something?
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Aliasalpha: Bollocks
Though hardly unexpected.
IF they actually do compatibility work, I MIGHT be tempted to try Republic Commando but unlike if they were being offered on GOG, I'm not replacing physical copies of stuff I already own
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cogadh: That's the second compatibility comment I've heard in regards to RC. I've never had issues with the game on XP, does it have problems with Vista or something?

The main trouble with RC comes from the bumpmapping used by the game. There were no bumpmapping of this kind in the UT2004 engine at this time, LucasArts developped it.
But, due to incompatibilities with recent graphic cards, the bumpmapping simply crashes the games. You just have to disable it, but the game graphics are not so good without it...
As for problems with Vista, I dont know.
I'd be really interested if this problem has been fixed... and if the game is released on another, and DRM-free, distributor than Steam... I can only hope...
Post edited July 06, 2009 by DarthKaal
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cogadh: That's the second compatibility comment I've heard in regards to RC. I've never had issues with the game on XP, does it have problems with Vista or something?
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DarthKaal: The main trouble with RC comes from the bumpmapping used by the game. There were no bumpmapping of this kind in the UT2004 engine at this time, LucasArts developped it.
But, due to incompatibilities with recent graphic cards, the bumpmapping simply crashes the games. You just have to disable it, but the game graphics are not so good without it...
As for problems with Vista, I dont know.
I'd be really interested if this problem has been fixed... and if the game is released on another, and DRM-free, distributor than Steam... I can only hope...

Odd, I have the bumpmapping set on high and have no issues at all. My hardware certainly isn't new, though (GeForce 7600GS).
LucasArts twitter @delutz The classic adventure games don't use SCUMMVM or DosBox, instead they all have self-running executables for Windows.
Well there goes any hope of being able to play the games independantly of steam.
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Aliasalpha: Bollocks
Though hardly unexpected.
IF they actually do compatibility work, I MIGHT be tempted to try Republic Commando but unlike if they were being offered on GOG, I'm not replacing physical copies of stuff I already own
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cogadh: That's the second compatibility comment I've heard in regards to RC. I've never had issues with the game on XP, does it have problems with Vista or something?

Mine was more a steam comment based on my purchase of the practically unplayable Hitman: Codename 47. I want assurances that I can play it on my laptop before I even think about looking at the price much less of spending money on it.
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Ralackk: LucasArts twitter @delutz The classic adventure games don't use SCUMMVM or DosBox, instead they all have self-running executables for Windows.
Well there goes any hope of being able to play the games independantly of steam.

And any hope they have of getting my money for older games. Sorry LA
Post edited July 06, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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Ralackk: LucasArts twitter @delutz The classic adventure games don't use SCUMMVM or DosBox, instead they all have self-running executables for Windows.
Well there goes any hope of being able to play the games independantly of steam.

If I was a betting man, I'd bet that this was done on purpose to keep these games tied to Steam. Man even in releasing games people have been demanding for years, LA still pisses on us.
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mogamer: If I was a betting man, I'd bet that this was done on purpose to keep these games tied to Steam. Man even in releasing games people have been demanding for years, LA still pisses on us.

They do seem to be of the stance that games need DRM. I'm still kind of hoping that they bring even a single game to gog and test the water with it so to speak.
I'm thinking it's more likely to troll the pawn shops and bargain bins. I found the LucasArts Archives 1 a few years back for $6CDN - all I need now is the Dig, Full Throttle, and some Monkey Islands. I figure $10 each might be fine, with CDs that I can make run on SCUMMVM.
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mogamer: If I was a betting man, I'd bet that this was done on purpose to keep these games tied to Steam. Man even in releasing games people have been demanding for years, LA still pisses on us.
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Ralackk: They do seem to be of the stance that games need DRM. I'm still kind of hoping that they bring even a single game to gog and test the water with it so to speak.

It seems completely ridiculous, since these games are so old, and so popular, they have been pirated to hell and back several times. I'll bet you'll have no difficulty whatsoever in finding torrents of any old LA adventure. It's a bit late in the game (pun unintended) for them to tighten the DRM for those games.
Yup, DRM or no DRM, honest people will buy it, dishonest will pirate it. Its always been that way and will be until they figure out a way to enforce the compulsory installation at birth of a copyright enforcement chip that will cut your senses off whenever you might be infringing copyright For example: hearing a song on someone else's radio would turn your ears off, its not like you NEED to hear the horn of the out of control bus hurtling towards you, we're talking about publisher royalties that never go near the creators of the music here, get some perspective!
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Aliasalpha: Yup, DRM or no DRM, honest people will buy it, dishonest will pirate it.

Hmm, with Steam, I think it's not so simple.
I'd say that honest people will buy, or will not buy at all, or will pirate it if there is no other choice to have these games without Steam.
It's really a shame because this kind of heavy anti-piracy does nothing more than encouraging piracy...
I remember the time when HL2 was released. A friend of mine had no internet back then, and the only way for him to play this game (that has not online mode, just to remind it) was to get a pirated version...
Post edited July 07, 2009 by DarthKaal
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Ralackk: They do seem to be of the stance that games need DRM. I'm still kind of hoping that they bring even a single game to gog and test the water with it so to speak.
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Wishbone: It seems completely ridiculous, since these games are so old, and so popular, they have been pirated to hell and back several times. I'll bet you'll have no difficulty whatsoever in finding torrents of any old LA adventure. It's a bit late in the game (pun unintended) for them to tighten the DRM for those games.

Heh! You don't need to find a torrent of these games to get them. There are plenty of sites that host the files of these games.
Anyway I won't be buying them off of Steam, but I have most of these games anyway. And if LA went to the trouble to re-do the code so they don't need an emulator to play in modern systems, they won't be showing up here on GOG anytime soon.
Their game discs had no copy protection at all up till about 2001 and even steam won't stop it being pirated (i think the hackers just do it for the challenge). But surely the demand for these won't be that great at you local dodgy carboot. Kids nowdays won't touch anything older than 6 months.
I would be tempted to buy them from GOG but not steam. Just glad i kept all my original cd's to use with SCUMMVM.
Guys, don't be so down on them, this is a good thing! This means that they have been listening to the fans and want to make us happy.
They had to release it on Steam initially for the simple reason that it has a much bigger audience. It was probably just easier for them to launch on one major online distribution network to isolate any bugs etc. since they now have to officially support these games again.
They never said anything about Steam exclusivity so I think it's far too premature to just assume that they will never release it on GoG. They seem to be at least trying to do right by their older IPs, such as with the Monkey Island remake and sequel, so let's give 'em the benefit of the doubt until they make some announcements either way...
Yes, at least the games are released.
One can always hope for GoG to gain a big enough market impact in the future for them to come onto here as well.